Sonic The Hedgehog

Mind you, American-made series were written with knowledge of those limitations, so they knew how to work around them.

This resulted in the somewhat odd situation where it looked like American series were allowed to have violence and dangerous situations, while anime had to be censored to hell and back. The 2003 Ninja Turtles series wasn't super dark, but it didn't have clumsy edits undercutting the violent scenes the way that the One Piece dub did.

Sjogre said:

Mind you, American-made series were written with knowledge of those limitations, so they knew how to work around them.

This resulted in the somewhat odd situation where it looked like American series were allowed to have violence and dangerous situations, while anime had to be censored to hell and back. The 2003 Ninja Turtles series wasn't super dark, but it didn't have clumsy edits undercutting the violent scenes the way that the One Piece dub did.

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I agree on the former, but not as much on the latter. Like yeah you sometimes get some stupid edits, such as Helmeppo's weird Hammergun thing. There had to be a better way to edit that. But its easy to get around SAP when your made with them in mind; its harder when you're adapting something with different SAP. I don't feel any other anime had as weird or clumbsy of edits as One Piece did. Like an easy comparison over alll is that TMNT was able to decap Shredder and have it be an big "oh shit" moment, but then they do they "it'll all okay" follow up which they make an even bigger "oh shit" moment by having Shredder stand up and just pick up his head and walk off. One Piece, you see a character get critically injured... and well yu might not see them again for 20+ episodes; becuase its rare for OP to actually kill someone off no matter how bad it looks, its just we don't get the immediate reveal that american audiances would.

Zamuel said:

Eh, in some places you can run into the dreaded sub vs dub debate and people who don't acknowledge that with Standards & Practices of the time, no cuts means no show at all.

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Even so, some of their changes tends to be on the verge of extreme or ridiculous.

Like, if I recall correctly, one Sonic X edit included removing text from signs. Not really replacing it with something in English, and I think some even had that originally, but just... removing it.

LBD Nytetrayn said:

Even so, some of their changes tends to be on the verge of extreme or ridiculous.

Like, if I recall correctly, one Sonic X edit included removing text from signs. Not really replacing it with something in English, and I think some even had that originally, but just... removing it.

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That's not just 4kids, I remember Sailor Moon and a few others did that as well to make them look more "American"

LBD Nytetrayn said:

Like, if I recall correctly, one Sonic X edit included removing text from signs. Not really replacing it with something in English, and I think some even had that originally, but just... removing it.

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Intriguingly enough, the animation company is the one responsible for that. They preemptively removed the text from the international version due to getting that request with other anime.

Sjogre said:

The 2003 Ninja Turtles series wasn't super dark

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It was in its fourth and fifth seasons, enough to finally get the attention of the FOX network heads who first had one Season 4 episode banned from the network completely (because it was way too gruesome and gory with outright human body horror), and then forced Season 5 to be initially skipped entirely before it came back to eventually air after the much lighter Season 6 had finished airing first.

One Season 5 episode never even got made because its premise was too dark and gross for FOX, dealing with the concept of conjoined twin children being surgically separated by a shady back-alley surgeon, and one of the separated twins being thrown out with the trash and left for dead.

Sabrblade said:

So, Sega originally tried to make Shadow's game have a much more mature rating...

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While click-baity and obnoxious, it seems the video might not be incorrect. Though in watching it, I gotta say personality differences are a thing. The guy said the game made him think Shadow was more cool while the game made me write Shadow off. The past few years returning to the franchise has caused shifts in how I see Shadow, though.

Making a prediction: If we have a Sonic Central presentation on 23rd, they'll show a trailer for the third Sonic movie.

So, after a long hiatus due to renovations, there was a Sonic livestream on the official YouTube. They confirmed that there wouldn't be a Sonic Central on June 23rd (or June at all). You could argue that not much happened on stream but there were some songs from the Sonic Symphony.

So, Anime Expo was over the weekend and there was a panel about Sonic X Shadow Generations' prologue animation, Dark Beginnings. It was announced that its actually three episodes and written by Ian Flynn. But...a trailer was revealed:
People are noting that the revealed character has been hiding in plain sight in the canon but the pieces were never put together due to not being in the forefront for a while.