Climate change (because it's still political for some reason)

Ungnome

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I seem to remember a climate change map suggesting that changes in temperature and rainfall patterns would actually increase the arable land in Canada. One of the few areas that would benefit from said changes. Screws up agriculture pretty much everywhere else, though.
 
wonko the sane?

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Yeah, I think I saw a similar map: it'll increase arable land, but it's not USEFUL land. A huge strip of that is hard packed clay which would require large amounts of time and energy to clear and rehabilitate for farming, the rest of it is some kind of peat bog that needs to be entirely removed before you can farm otherwise it'll swallow entire buildings and machinery when it thaws in spring.

That land isn't exactly marginal NOW, but there's a good reason it isn't being used.
 
Pocket

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How can people be safer than ever from something that according to you has never existed? Surely we can only ever be exactly as safe as we've ever been.
 
Ungnome

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Well, he's not wrong, in a sense. People don't die as often to hurricanes, flooding and tornadoes as they used to despite those things happening more frequently and severely. It's a STUPID take on the problem, but it is a take. We still have to do all the repairs and cleanup after the storms hit and it still costs a ton of money to do so, but YAY US, more people survive so lets keep making our environment more unstable....

Keep rolling those dice that are getting stacked more and more against us. Our improved technology will help weather the storm at least until it all collapses when we end up rolling a natural one and we end up with massive crop failures causing a global famine the likes of which the world has never seen.
 
abates

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wonko the sane? said:
It looks like the conservatives will take a minority in the next canadian federal election: which means that what little effort trudeau and the liberals have put in will be undone. It'll also be the greenlight for the provinces to ignore what environmental policy they put in or had force upon them. Some won't take that up because they actually want climate protections, but there's a line of them out in the prairies that'll happily smoke the skies black.
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The conservatives here, who are polling highly for the general election next month, have said they're going to roll back basically all of the climate change legislation if they get in, although they're still committed to the net zero carbon target which they're going to achieve... somehow.
 
wonko the sane?

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abates said:
The conservatives here, who are polling highly for the general election next month, have said they're going to roll back basically all of the climate change legislation if they get in, although they're still committed to the net zero carbon target which they're going to achieve... somehow.
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They achieve it when the corporations price everything out of range of half the population.
 
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I’m almost resigned to the fact that national governments will all put off doing a fraction of the bare minimum to mitigate climate change, and in 15-20 years we’ll all be living under drastic, draconian measures enacted by authoritarian regimes.
 
Spin-Out

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i really hate how greenpeace and the environmental movement as a whole in the 60's and 70's fell hook, line and sinker for the fossil fuel mafia's propaganda campaign against nuclear energy. that shit set us back decades.
 
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The rejections stand in contrast to moves by Republican governors to encourage more use of nuclear energy. Last year, West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice lifted his state’s ban on constructing nuclear reactors. A month later, Wyoming Gov. Mark Gordon signed legislation designed to make it easier for the Bill Gates-backed nuclear startup TerraPower to pursue its debut project of transforming a coal-fired power plant into a state-of-the-art nuclear facility. In August, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott hyped a proposal to build a novel type of small nuclear reactor at a Dow Chemical facility in his state.
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When you're falling behind the Republican party on this issue, the environmental movement has lost the plot.
 
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Spin-Out said:
i really hate how greenpeace and the environmental movement as a whole in the 60's and 70's fell hook, line and sinker for the fossil fuel mafia's propaganda campaign against nuclear energy. that shit set us back decades.
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abates

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Either way, he's probably going to be spending the rest of his life in a Panamanian prison.
 
wonko the sane?

wonko the sane?

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And right in time for the iowa primaries... it's almost like god doesn't want it to happen...
 
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